Great idea. I too am not categorically against “natural wine”. Why not start at the opposite end of the scale from factory produced, calibrated, droid wines showing “nowhereness”? Great things could come from it. No sense throwing out the baby with the bath water, I just don’t want to drink the bath water.
After reading a depressing article in the Wine Enthusiast Facebook page about terroir, which had me wanting to kill people for most of the day, nice to read something intelligent and well argued.
Personally, I have not tasted the wines of which you speak, but they will certainly hear from me if I am offered crap in the name of Natural.
I have a 16th century cellar in the Loire Valley full of humble but wonderful organic, biodynamic and other wines produced by growers respectful of the environment, bought directly from the vineyards. I also spend time in Spain, gradually discovering the good stuff.
They run amok in Spain unfortunately. Everyone has been sold on this bandwagon's "moral high ground" to quote one the biggest/original Trash Natural pushers.
I had one of these a few years ago. It was represented as natural, organic, biodynamic, and everything else that was trendy. It was terrible. It took me years to try organic wines again. I later discovered that well-made organic wines can be great. I’m sympathetic to the principles. But such wines aren’t “natural” in the sense that the villains of the article are. The sooner those frauds disappear from the market, the better.
Why is it they all think they have the moral high ground and are always quite offensive and snobby. It’s like a bunch of Brooklyn hipsters from 2000 decided they would collectively ruin wine for others and put down great wine, because… the horror… sulfites!
Great idea. I too am not categorically against “natural wine”. Why not start at the opposite end of the scale from factory produced, calibrated, droid wines showing “nowhereness”? Great things could come from it. No sense throwing out the baby with the bath water, I just don’t want to drink the bath water.
But the bathwater is water as god intended!
After reading a depressing article in the Wine Enthusiast Facebook page about terroir, which had me wanting to kill people for most of the day, nice to read something intelligent and well argued.
Personally, I have not tasted the wines of which you speak, but they will certainly hear from me if I am offered crap in the name of Natural.
I have a 16th century cellar in the Loire Valley full of humble but wonderful organic, biodynamic and other wines produced by growers respectful of the environment, bought directly from the vineyards. I also spend time in Spain, gradually discovering the good stuff.
They run amok in Spain unfortunately. Everyone has been sold on this bandwagon's "moral high ground" to quote one the biggest/original Trash Natural pushers.
Hear, hear.
I had one of these a few years ago. It was represented as natural, organic, biodynamic, and everything else that was trendy. It was terrible. It took me years to try organic wines again. I later discovered that well-made organic wines can be great. I’m sympathetic to the principles. But such wines aren’t “natural” in the sense that the villains of the article are. The sooner those frauds disappear from the market, the better.
They're not so much frauds as fanatics. The amount of times I've been told, "You'll see the light eventually" are too many to count.
Why is it they all think they have the moral high ground and are always quite offensive and snobby. It’s like a bunch of Brooklyn hipsters from 2000 decided they would collectively ruin wine for others and put down great wine, because… the horror… sulfites!
Because if you can't make good wine, make shit wine and say it's better until someone else agrees with you.
Ugh. Yep.